How has the COVID-19 shutdown affected you personally?
This Covid 19 thing has put things on halt for me. I love to get to the weight room and go to the gym, I can't do that. I was supposed to have events that I host in the city of Richmond, that's canceled. The season in Switzerland is canceled because of Covid-19, so I came back home immediately and found out about the restrictions that were going to be put into place. Yeah man not working out or getting in the gym and lifting weight and (unable to be) making money that's how it's affecting me.
There were some criticisms about the NCAA giving all spring sports seniors an extra year of eligibility. Do you believe that the NCAA made the right choice?
Honestly, I don't think it (extra year) should just be towards the spring sports, I think it should be for all the sports. At the end of the day you may never know what someone else's situation is, like a lot of people had expectations for the year, because of the Covid-19 it kind of set everything back it just caught everybody off guard. So no the NCAA has done a lot of things that I don't certainly agree with, but I see what they are trying to help, but they aren't really helping you got to think of everyone as a whole.
What would you say to the spring athletes that are contemplating if they should return for an extra season or not?
For everyone that is contemplating I would say that, if they are contemplating then they should do it. As long as their decision will benefit them and their career further on beyond (college) hopefully professionally then do it. I say go for it, it doesn't hurt to try.
Recently, the NCAA announced that they also will allow athletes to profit from their name, image and likeness. What was your reaction to that news?
My reaction to that, is about time! I honestly think that they should've been allowed that, because some athletes don't have (a chance to play professionally). So why not help these student-athletes profit and make some money with their name so they can have some money to lean on while in college? Whether it is for food, books, to help pay off student loans just something. I want them to pass (that rule) so other athletes can benefit from it, but when I saw that they were going to allow this after I graduated, it kind of made me mad.
Expand on your feelings that you were unable to have the opportunity to make money while competing in college.
It sucks because I worked so hard and being in college you just don't have enough time to get a job like regular students. Honestly if I was able to get paid off my image and my likeness and my name in college I honestly would probably still have money from that for my first year out of college. So you know it sucks but I am where I am today, things happen for a reason so I'm not stressed.
How do you think this ruling will impact HBCU athletics?
I think it will impact HBCU athletics a lot because a lot of people tend sleep on HBCU's especially the not well known HBCU's like (North Carolina) A&T or Howard. It's a lot of people at these other HBCU's that are ball players or athletes that are really good at what they do. this will benefit them and really put HBCU's on the map, so people won't get overlooked and credit will be given where credit is due. (The athletes) will catch somebodies' eye and hopefully it is the right person (that can help them) move forward in their career.
Let's transition to your playing career at DSU. Statistically speaking, you had a case to win the MEAC Player of the Year award the last three seasons of your career. Did you feel slighted by not receiving the award after your sophomore and junior seasons?
Yeah, I was heated I was so mad that I didn't get the award because I worked so hard. Just the things that I went through physically and mentally throughout my four years but especially those two years. It was a lot and I just thought that I just worked so much harder than everyone else because when we played other teams regardless whether they had problems, they had a team that could play together. That was not the case with the team that I was on. I had to tune out like a lot of things, I had to do a lot of self-reflection and just deal with the mental toll and it was hard it was very stressful, but also I just let my numbers and my game speak for themselves.
There were a few moments during your sophomore and junior years when you seriously considered transferring. A talented player such as yourself would of drew plenty of interest once you hit the transfer portal. Why did you opt to finish your career as a Hornet instead?
Yeah man it was a lot of things that not only did I faced individually but things with the team that was just too much and I got overwhelmed. I already knew that I was going to draw a lot of interest once I hit the portal, but for me I'm all about loyalty regardless of how things look in the present. At that time, I was loyal to the head coach because she (Former DSU Head Coach Barbara Burgess) had brought me in when she didn't have to. Del State was my last resort because of my test scores with the SAT and ACT. By the way which I took like five times. I got the call the next day after I got my test scores I passed (the test) I got the call. She called my parents and the next day we were headed to Delaware. She picked me up when she didn't have to she just heard about me through word of mouth. She was a new coach she needed to get some new players and she picked me up. Ever since then she helped me grow into this player, she saw a lot in me that I didn't see in myself. She really challenged me and brought out a side of me that I needed to be brought out of me. Which I thank her today for that. Like I said man it was just loyalty even though I wanted to leave and knew I could go to a better team, with new coaches and a new environment, it's just with me by the time my sophomore year I already noticed that I was on track to beating or just setting records. Even though that's not what I'm about because when I got there my intention was to win a ring and a championship with the team. So I decided to stick it out. My sophomore year was my most challenging year throughout my four years there. I (seriously) thought to leave but me and coach had a talk and I stayed. After my junior year I considered (leaving) but I was too deep into it and I wanted to finish what I started. I had a lot of Del State friends and family and I really didn't want to start that over again.
On Feb. 11, 2019 against North Carolina Central, you broke the school record for most points in a career, once you found out what was your initial reaction?
Honestly just looking at how I was playing throughout that year I knew I was going to (break) it. Like I said when I first got there my intention was to win the (Conference) Championship, so when I (broke the record) it was like cool, but what are we going to do now. How are we go forward to get better or like a different strategy to work harder and get over that hump when we play other teams. So that was it, there really wasn't a (celebration) but more like ok what's next. Not next for me personally like cool I got the accolades blah blah blah but we're still in season and we got to stay focus and can't get sidetracked.
Understandably the team comes first, but you broke several school single season and career records, which record that you set means the most to you?
Honestly being first in anything means the most to me because I worked so hard to get to where I was at that point. The late nights in the gym, getting extra shots up or watching basketball games trying to learn the moves. Just working just trying to perfect my game. (Those records) really show that not only was I talking about getting better I was trying to get better and I was putting in the effort to get better.
On March 8, 2019, the MEAC announced you as the MEAC Player of the Year award winner, how did it feel to finally be considered the best player in the conference?
Honestly after my freshman year after I got freshman player of the year, I was just so hungry I was so determined to get more and more and more. So my sophomore year when I didn't get it I was upset and I was still stuck on getting it so next year I'm going to get it. After my junior year I still didn't get it, so I said you know what I'm just going to stop focusing about this award, it's more to basketball than just an award. The award does not define the type of player that I am and how much work that I do. So at that point I stopped worrying about the MEAC Player-of-the-Year. When it came down to the end of the year I wasn't expecting the award, one of my coaches actually called me, I was on my way walking back to campus, and he told me that I got the MEAC Player-of-the-Year I was shocked! I just couldn't believe it because with basketball it's all political. It's who you know or who has the best team, and my thing (throughout the years) is if it's the best player of the year award, why are you giving the award to players (solely because) they are on a good team? And (the voters) are saying I couldn't get the award because I wasn't on a good team and that was my point on everything, but I really didn't care I wasn't fazed by it when I got it I thought "It's about time."
Outside of the record-breaking games, what other moments do you have during your time here that will you cherish throughout your life?
Honestly, the times that I cherish are with the friends that I made there, also my classmates in my sports management major. We are all close, we all talk to each other. It was a family vibe we supported each other. Just having talks with people within the sports (department) Mr. Fortune, Ms. Wisher, Ms. Hicks,
Derrick Slayton, Chris Larson, just everybody. I literally talked to everybody in the sports department and It was just a lot of love and a lot of respect and a lot of people just had my back with the position I was in and they always just gave me friendly advice. I could just walk into a office and just sit down and we would just talk about things. I am blessed to have been able to finish out my years and leave with a bang how I did. I'm very fortunate to be able to do so. I'm glad I stuck through everything and I'm just thankful for all the coaches and my teammates that I had through those four years that helped me get me to where I am today. Especially my coaches for believing in me and taking there time to work with me, not only as a player but as a person.
In your first professional game, you tallied 35 points and 14 rebounds. What do you remember the most about your debut game?
I was just really excited to play because my first initial goal was to always go to the WNBA. As I got older and started to understand how different the wage gap is between the WNBA and the NBA players, I thought ok maybe I'll go overseas and travel more and see a different world. I was just excited to be there, I was blessed and fortune to live the life that I live and just do the hard work and the dedication that I implemented into my life. So I was just high off adrenaline and excitement that's all that was. I just remember playing, having fun and enjoying the moment.
In 14 games with Helios VS Basket, you averaged a league-high 26.3 points and a team high 10.1 rebounds per game. Were you surprised by how dominate you were in the Switzerland league?
I wasn't really surprised with how dominated I was just because I know the type of player I am and how aggressive I am, how I can just score a certain amount of points if I wanted to or if needed be. At the end of the day I'm always ready to do what I need in order to help the team so if I see that we are lacking in rebounding I'll go do that, if I see my team is lacking in scoring I'll go do that, if I see my team is lacking in defense or just anything I always wanted to do my best to help. I'm all about winning that's all I want to do is win, I want to go far (into the playoffs) but I also want to be challenged and I always want to get better.
What was the intensity and the atmosphere like overseas, and how did it feel to get your first professional victory?
It was different because I was on a team full of younger girls from the ages of 16-18. So, they had like a lot to learn and basketball over there is different than basketball over here. They are not taught the fundamentals and things you would expect a ball player to know. That was kind of one of the challenges to me, I expected things for a ball player to know but we are from two different worlds, so they don't know. Our first win was exciting because the club (that I'm on) use to be very good but many players left, so getting that win was exciting.
You spoke on it briefly earlier, but what was it like to travel and experience a new culture, also did you pick up any new hobbies while playing overseas?
It was really cool everything was different. The language barrier was different their housing and cars were different, the money was way different, it looks better than the U.S. dollar. Any new hobbies? No I didn't, I actually started meditating a little bit more, just to keep me calm and sane with everything going on.
Expand more on how you were able to stay healthy and stable mentally, despite being so far away from home?
I was able to stay healthy because out there it is really foreign to eat vegetables and once I informed them that I'm a pescatarian, they tried to feed us pasta every day. I'm like no that's not going to happen, I needed protein and things like that, so I just started to go to the store and started cooking for myself later on down the line. After we talked to the chefs, they cooked orders that me and my teammate who is also a pescatarian could eat. Mentally like I said, I meditate a lot, I have candles in my room and kind of took time out of my day I just sit there for a while. I just had to ease my mind of everything and just reflect and write down my goals and what to focus on. I also started reading more, just trying to make myself a better person at all times. As far as being away from home I just texted my parents and my brothers everyday just to check up on them. Phone calls every now and then and I stayed active and tried to take care of my body.
Most of the time, American players do not stay with the same international team, what is next for you professionally?
Right now, after speaking with my agent I have a couple options, Spain, Turkey, Israel, Poland, every team in Switzerland. I have options but as of right now where to (go next)? I can't say yet It all just depends on whether there will be a season or not next season.
Were you able to follow the Hornets basketball team at all this past season?
I was able to catch a couple games this season. After we got a new coach, I became busier and I wasn't able to watch the games, but I was able to stay updated on twitter.
Your former teammate Lanayjha Ashe reached the 1,000-point club vs. Coppin State (2/1/20); when she first arrived on campus, did you see that type of potential within her?
First, I want to say congrats to her I didn't know that she did that, but I would say yeah. With all of my teammates I played along with, I always seen a lot of potential in them with what they can do and how they can get better. I'm proud of her. I'm happy she did that because I know how bad she wants to win, and I know how she likes to compete so again congrats to her.
What are your thoughts on the direction of the program?
I was really happy and excited for the team, to just be (in the second round of the MEAC Tournament) and how they turned their whole program around. That was great and I'm so happy for them. I'm confident enough to say that this squad put DSU on the map and they are drawing a lot of attention. I think the DSU Women's program is about take another route and just flourish into something that's way better than the past.
Final question: it's just a matter of time before you will be elected into the Delaware State Athletic Hall of Fame. What will that moment mean to you when you get your Hall of Fame jacket and speak amongst fellow Hall of Famers while having your family and friends in attendance?
Honestly man it's crazy that your saying that, I really don't know. I'm not going to be shocked but just nervous you know. I never expected to get this far with everything I've been through. Just even before arriving on campus just the process of making it to college. I've just been through so much and I never really expected myself to get so far but, I'm pretty sure when that time comes that I'll have something to say. But I will be honored, blessed, grateful, thankful, all of that. Just because Del State is like my second family away from home. Just the people there the people I built relationships with and things like that and it will really mean a lot to me.